sanhari
07-21 11:24 AM
Use this forum strictly for discussions on support of EB spillover usage based on priority date. Others please look for other appropriate forums for your discussion. Not meant to hurt anybody's feelings, but to keep focused on the purpose of this forum.
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ramus
07-07 09:33 PM
Yes, if we work on our state chapter and get some idea how many members can join in DC then we can talk about it to core members and see what they think.
IF something is planned, we can come to DC from Raleigh,NC.
IF something is planned, we can come to DC from Raleigh,NC.
arung
08-13 11:23 AM
True, like I still have a EDD letter talks about my first case for GC was filled on Aug. 2001 as wanted to immigrant but what is the use, as I have to file new one as even if I have transferred my employment to my parent companies client, USCIS has no rule to transfer labor process or priority dates until has approved i140, they requires to file new one which surly takes time. And I am sure mostly people completed even 10 years of working waiting for GC have the same issue.
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royus77
07-08 09:03 PM
Can we have this event scheduled for major cities in other parts of US? What day are we looking for this rally? (14th July??)
I can gather 100+ people from Chicago..
Forget aboit other cities ,Here we are not able to get enough people in DC , which is having a decent community .If you planning to get 100 in chicago , can you make i to DC nbext weekend .
I can gather 100+ people from Chicago..
Forget aboit other cities ,Here we are not able to get enough people in DC , which is having a decent community .If you planning to get 100 in chicago , can you make i to DC nbext weekend .
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indianabacklog
11-21 03:53 PM
Mehul
I can more than understand what you are going through right now. I was diagnosed with cancer ten months after coming to the US. I am also the principal applicant and of course it was terrifying. I have no idea what your prognosis is or the type of cancer and do not need to know. However, I live in Indiana and the doctors here managed to save Lance Armstrong. He was sent here from Texas. I am now a six year survivor.
I am now undergoing tests for a possible second cancer diagnosis seven years later and still no green card for my family. Hoping for one for my husband in the New Year. My son aged out and is on a student visa. I live each day realizing this is not a dress rehearsal and have to believe everything will be OK and I have absolutely no control over what the future holds.
I know only too well how shell shocked you are right now but you have to have faith that things will work out how they are meant to. Adversity can have a silver lining.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment plan. You need to concentrate on your health right now.
I can more than understand what you are going through right now. I was diagnosed with cancer ten months after coming to the US. I am also the principal applicant and of course it was terrifying. I have no idea what your prognosis is or the type of cancer and do not need to know. However, I live in Indiana and the doctors here managed to save Lance Armstrong. He was sent here from Texas. I am now a six year survivor.
I am now undergoing tests for a possible second cancer diagnosis seven years later and still no green card for my family. Hoping for one for my husband in the New Year. My son aged out and is on a student visa. I live each day realizing this is not a dress rehearsal and have to believe everything will be OK and I have absolutely no control over what the future holds.
I know only too well how shell shocked you are right now but you have to have faith that things will work out how they are meant to. Adversity can have a silver lining.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment plan. You need to concentrate on your health right now.
good idea
09-23 04:29 PM
"EB-2 India. This category is expected to remain unchanged or to move very slowly forward (by a week or so) in the short-term. This is mainly caused by the fact that many EB-3 India applicants (there are approximately 60,000 EB-3 India pending cases) are �porting� their priority dates into the EB-2 India category and are thus taking visa numbers.
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
I am surprised that you have tool to predict some of EB3 people porting to EB2 are fraudulent. Can you share the criteria for this allegation?
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
I am surprised that you have tool to predict some of EB3 people porting to EB2 are fraudulent. Can you share the criteria for this allegation?
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purgan
12-10 09:44 AM
All the appropriations bill will be dealt by the new Democratic Congress in Jan-Feb (CR expires Feb 15). Immigratio Relief provisions can be attached to these bills...i believe there is widespread support for these among both Democrats and most Republicans
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vikki76
09-29 04:48 PM
For variety of reasons, I wish to explore option of consulting instead of permanent corporate job. Can I do consulting in my own name directly or do I need to be associated with some company?
Green card (EB-2, Nov 29,2004 PD) application is in my name. I have filed 485 this July and expecting my EAD any time. I will be invoking AC21 after 6 months.
But need answer to this question
A. Consult on own?
B. Go through a consulting company?
I prefer option A.
Green card (EB-2, Nov 29,2004 PD) application is in my name. I have filed 485 this July and expecting my EAD any time. I will be invoking AC21 after 6 months.
But need answer to this question
A. Consult on own?
B. Go through a consulting company?
I prefer option A.
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nmdial
07-21 08:13 AM
When we talk about fairness, we forget the fact that life is not fair. Instead of a division among ourselves, we should aim for a constructive approach otherwise this whole advocacy drive would be futile.
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willigetagc
08-23 02:34 PM
My 2 paisa ( though it has no value anymore anywhere)
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
CIS is answerable to nobody. While they will be more responsive to complaints and suggestions at a broad level, individual case processing is something that can't be controlled.
It is a problem of ridiculous amount of power in the hands of people who can't handle it - the IOs. They can do anything. It is not hard for them to justify saying the older cases are complex, whereas in reality, it might a case of plain laziness to go fetch the case files.
So, if they are processing at random, there is nothing we can do except zip up, pray and wait for luck to turn our way.
my $0.02 worth.
First and foremost we have to realize that we are fee paying customers to USCIS. We have a right to demand better customer service. The reports and other kind of data they are releasing currently is an insult to the high skilled immigrant community. It is time we call out that the king (USCIS) has no clothes. They have been feeding us garbage disguised as reports and offical data. Anybody with a high school degree would say that the reports and data provided have zero value since they are not complete.
How do we get the right kind of information from USCIS?
Here are the steps
a) Send letters to the Dept chief asking for the data we need and wait for 3-4 weeks for a response. ( Data we should ask for, apps pending with PD's and EB category for every month starting from 1998)
b) Send another letter to the President and copy USCIS chief on that. Wait for another 3-4 weeks
c) If we do not get any satisfactory information after the previous 2 steps and 2 months of waiting, we should do a relay protest in DC and in front of all the USCIS centers until they provide us with the exact data.
By doing this we woould have put enough spotlight on USCIS and also our problmes would have got enough coverage in the media. From here we can try and work with the various agencies to push for our other agendas. Now we will have a clearer picture of what the situation is and ask for the right things. At the same time the agencies will have the better information with them to look in to our issues.
Comments are welcome.
CIS is answerable to nobody. While they will be more responsive to complaints and suggestions at a broad level, individual case processing is something that can't be controlled.
It is a problem of ridiculous amount of power in the hands of people who can't handle it - the IOs. They can do anything. It is not hard for them to justify saying the older cases are complex, whereas in reality, it might a case of plain laziness to go fetch the case files.
So, if they are processing at random, there is nothing we can do except zip up, pray and wait for luck to turn our way.
my $0.02 worth.
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EndlessWait
04-23 01:41 PM
endlesswait;
there is a definite procedure, we follow it with appropriate paperwork and itll get done.
only thing is after ur date becomes current. YOU may have to WAKE up the application by using lotta phone calls/infopass/congressman etc.
a colleague of mine got this done last year. his case was like this. its eb2 to eb2...but
i think it wud be similar to eb3-eb2
OLD eb2 labor applied - dec 2002
eb2 perm labor approved - july 2005
140/485 for perm labor filed - sept 2005
140 perm approved nov 2005
old eb2 labor backlog approved - dec 2006
140 for old labor approved - jan 2007 ( premium pr)
succesfully Ported the PD from old to new - feb 2007 ***lawyer charged him 1200 bucks for this effort; i have his details, if u need it***
then he spent a month or so running around to infopass, ph calls, congresman etc ...in an effort to Wake up the appln.. its like telling, "hey guys, i ported date to old date, so now my PD is current, im right now elig for 485 approval, can u pls do it???"...
in april, he got appproval for 485, no RFE, card arrived direct in mail.
thx
god bless
there is a definite procedure, we follow it with appropriate paperwork and itll get done.
only thing is after ur date becomes current. YOU may have to WAKE up the application by using lotta phone calls/infopass/congressman etc.
a colleague of mine got this done last year. his case was like this. its eb2 to eb2...but
i think it wud be similar to eb3-eb2
OLD eb2 labor applied - dec 2002
eb2 perm labor approved - july 2005
140/485 for perm labor filed - sept 2005
140 perm approved nov 2005
old eb2 labor backlog approved - dec 2006
140 for old labor approved - jan 2007 ( premium pr)
succesfully Ported the PD from old to new - feb 2007 ***lawyer charged him 1200 bucks for this effort; i have his details, if u need it***
then he spent a month or so running around to infopass, ph calls, congresman etc ...in an effort to Wake up the appln.. its like telling, "hey guys, i ported date to old date, so now my PD is current, im right now elig for 485 approval, can u pls do it???"...
in april, he got appproval for 485, no RFE, card arrived direct in mail.
thx
god bless
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dpp
07-28 11:51 AM
This argument applies to EB3 and EB1 also. Also, we already crossed that line of proving that no other qualified is available. Even EB3 does the same. So, you are asking to audit everybody?
You agree it or not, from USCIS/Congress point of view,
Order of preference is, EB1 -> EB2 -> EB3.
If you are eligible for EB1/EB2, go for it. Nobody is stopping you.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
You agree it or not, from USCIS/Congress point of view,
Order of preference is, EB1 -> EB2 -> EB3.
If you are eligible for EB1/EB2, go for it. Nobody is stopping you.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
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reddymjm
06-13 11:31 AM
My attorney told me that they sent my case to USCIS through FEDEX overnight on 6th June. My check is not cleared from my bank yet. I am concerned about my RD. Any idea?
If it is NSC they are still working on 6/1/07 cases. Relax...
If it is NSC they are still working on 6/1/07 cases. Relax...
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abq_gc
08-20 11:57 AM
I guess, its fair to assume that all of our applications have been really transferred to TSC. Please keep on updating as soon as you guys get a receipt notice or yur checks get encashed.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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kshitijnt
05-09 07:15 PM
Western govts. understand only one language, that is lawsuits. Everything else is taken as sucking up to them and weakness. The Indian community in UK has been successful by means of lawsuits. Although I am a big fan and supporter of IV, I think the option of taking lawsuit off the table has hurt us more than it has helped us. Why are we paying $25K for FOIA when no information has come out of it? Instead we should file a grand lawsuit? All information we are expecting from FOIA would be forced to be shared in lawsuit anyway.
I know of one such lawsuit by Mr Rajeev Khanna in 2003, although the lawsuit failed, the speed of 485 processing increased sharply soon after. We have to make bold choices as a community.
The worldwide message of Obama administration being blamed of discrimination from a president whose community was discriminated against is not something white house would be proud of.
Although I do not expect justice in american justice system, at the very least we can send a strong message across to the larger Indian community that would be watching worldwide.
The message is getting stronger in India that Obama administration is anti India for no fault of India and we can make an all out effort using media, lawsuit and everything else in our means to settle the issue once for all.
I know of one such lawsuit by Mr Rajeev Khanna in 2003, although the lawsuit failed, the speed of 485 processing increased sharply soon after. We have to make bold choices as a community.
The worldwide message of Obama administration being blamed of discrimination from a president whose community was discriminated against is not something white house would be proud of.
Although I do not expect justice in american justice system, at the very least we can send a strong message across to the larger Indian community that would be watching worldwide.
The message is getting stronger in India that Obama administration is anti India for no fault of India and we can make an all out effort using media, lawsuit and everything else in our means to settle the issue once for all.
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helpme1234
09-18 07:44 AM
My appl recvd at NSC on July 3 at 11:14 am by f heuifner anyone on the same boat
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08-18 12:12 AM
LUD on 08/05/07
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vkannan
08-01 12:42 PM
All
My company paper filed my EAD / AP renewal for self & spouse on 07/29 @ TSC,
EAD /AP Renewal : 07/29/2008
Status : ???
================================================== ======
PD : Nov 2006
PERM Approved : Dec 2006:)
I-140 PP Approved : Dec 2006:)
I-485 - Obviously Pending (Yeah, sneaked in through Mad rush July Fiasco'07):)
My company paper filed my EAD / AP renewal for self & spouse on 07/29 @ TSC,
EAD /AP Renewal : 07/29/2008
Status : ???
================================================== ======
PD : Nov 2006
PERM Approved : Dec 2006:)
I-140 PP Approved : Dec 2006:)
I-485 - Obviously Pending (Yeah, sneaked in through Mad rush July Fiasco'07):)
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walking_dude
10-08 02:31 PM
Please donate $5000 to IV and they'll make it their top-most agenda
/sarcasm off
Action item for IV, besides visa recapturing etc. Its one of the items they
should add to there agenda.
/sarcasm off
Action item for IV, besides visa recapturing etc. Its one of the items they
should add to there agenda.
chanduv23
02-17 05:26 PM
@12%, thanks iak1973, reddymjm, mhkumar, Pagal, Hopeful1, dudes2006
Total Contributions..........$6,225.00
Amount to be raised.......$43,775.00
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Great, lets keep this going.
Come on folks - we can do this for ourselves, for our future, for our children, for the good.
Total Contributions..........$6,225.00
Amount to be raised.......$43,775.00
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Great, lets keep this going.
Come on folks - we can do this for ourselves, for our future, for our children, for the good.
senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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